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Ham-Policy Digest           Wed,  4 May 94       Volume 94 : Issue  192

Today's Topics:
            "NOCODE" Tech to "TechPLUS" upgrading (4 msgs)
                       Idea, 10-10 members....
               New FCC amateur radio licenses (5 msgs)
              Oh, no, Mr. Bob! (was Re: "NOCODE: . . .)
                                Ooops.

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Date: 3 May 94 19:26:35 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!jericho.mc.com!fugu![e-mail]
Subject: "NOCODE" Tech to "TechPLUS" upgrading
To: [e-mail]

In article [e-mail], [e-mail] (Dan Pickersgill) writes:
-->kevin jessup <[e-mail]> writes:
-->
-->>When a "codeless" tech "upgrades" to TECH plus 5WPM code, he simply
-->>gets a CSCE for the 5WPM.  No forms get sent to the FCC.  At least
-->>not when I upgraded.  I was told to just save the form in case
-->>someone asked to see it.

Well, this has changed.  Now there is a distinction between
No-Code Techs and Technicians w/HF on the 610 Form.  The
FCC now apparently recognizes the two distinct licence classes.

No one can argue that they are not different.  Different
requirements to pass and different privs.  Similar to the
difference between any other 2 classes.

You pass more elements, you gets more privs.


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Bob Levine  KD1GG 7J1AIS VK2GYN               formerly KA1JFP
[e-mail]   <--Internet email    Phone[phone] x247
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Date: 3 May 1994 19:31:19 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!jericho.mc.com!fugu![e-mail]
Subject: "NOCODE" Tech to "TechPLUS" upgrading
To: [e-mail]

In article [e-mail], [e-mail] (Dave Bushong) writes:
-->
-->What happens if you:
-->
-->Upgraded from Codeless Tech to Code Tech, then moved, and sent in a
-->610 for a change of address?  Do you include your CSCE so that the
-->FCCs information is correct?  Or just keep the CSCE forever in case
-->you never upgrade?
-->

If I were a Tech w/HF who upgraded from No-Code, I would send
the CSCE photocopy so my new license could indicate Technician w/HF.
Also, the FCC database could be updated in my favor.

The station licenses are now different, as I understand.


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Bob Levine  KD1GG 7J1AIS VK2GYN               formerly KA1JFP
[e-mail]   <--Internet email    Phone[phone] x247
[e-mail] <--Packet Mail         FAX[phone]
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Date: 3 May 1994 19:37:46 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!jericho.mc.com!fugu![e-mail]
Subject: "NOCODE" Tech to "TechPLUS" upgrading
To: [e-mail]

In article [e-mail], [e-mail] (Mont Pierce) writes:
-->>kevin jessup <[e-mail]> writes:
-->>
-->>>When a "codeless" tech "upgrades" to TECH plus 5WPM code, he simply
-->>>gets a CSCE for the 5WPM.  No forms get sent to the FCC.  At least
-->>>not when I upgraded.  I was told to just save the form in case
-->>>someone asked to see it.
-->>>

-->
-->In all the databases I've seen I've never seen any indication of any
-->kind that you could use to distinguish between a Tech and Tech+ unless
-->they upgraded from Novice to Tech+.
-->
-->So, unless your going to confront each Tech and ask for their CSCE you
-->would never know if they upgraded from Tech to Tech+ or not...
-->
-->If the FCC can tell, then they must be looking at some field other then
-->class of license.
-->
-->73,
-->
-->km6wt
-->

The new licenses to be issued shortly (when the new FCC Computer
is online, and it isnt today) will differentiate between
Technician and Technician w/HF ON THE LICENSE.

Also, I learned today that the FCC is backlogged 12-14 weeks
and still processing the OLD 610s.  (they havent reached the first
of the new ones yet due to the backlog)

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Bob Levine  KD1GG 7J1AIS VK2GYN               formerly KA1JFP
[e-mail]   <--Internet email    Phone[phone] x247
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Date: 3 May 1994 15:08 CDT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!news.uh.edu!elroy.uh.edu![e-mail]
Subject: "NOCODE" Tech to "TechPLUS" upgrading
To: [e-mail]

In article <2q68hb$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes...
>In article [e-mail], [e-mail] (Dan Pickersgill) writes:
>-->kevin jessup <[e-mail]> writes:
>-->
>-->>When a "codeless" tech "upgrades" to TECH plus 5WPM code, he simply
>-->>gets a CSCE for the 5WPM.  No forms get sent to the FCC.  At least
>-->>not when I upgraded.  I was told to just save the form in case
>-->>someone asked to see it.
>
>Well, this has changed.  Now there is a distinction between
>No-Code Techs and Technicians w/HF on the 610 Form.  The
>FCC now apparently recognizes the two distinct licence classes.
>
>No one can argue that they are not different.  Different
>requirements to pass and different privs.  Similar to the
>difference between any other 2 classes.
>
>You pass more elements, you gets more privs.
>
>
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>Bob Levine  KD1GG 7J1AIS VK2GYN               formerly KA1JFP
>[e-mail]   <--Internet email    Phone[phone] x247
>[e-mail] <--Packet Mail         FAX[phone]
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>

When the FCC gets their new computer system online, the will begin
issueing licenses that state "Technician Plus HF".  This is from W5YI.

-Brad Killebrew N5LJV
[e-mail]
-President, Univ of Houston ARC

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Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 19:10:20 GMT
From: darwin.sura.net!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!news.cs.indiana.edu!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!constellation.ecn.purdue.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Idea, 10-10 members....
To: [e-mail]

I'd like to gauge the interest among members of 10-10 International who
are on the Internet for a group, possibly called:

rec.radio.amateur.1010

The purpose of the group would be multiple:

1) to help disseminate information of general interest to 10-10 members
    who have access to Internet.

2) to help 10-10 members set up skeds, nets and other communications events.

3) to help develop interest in not only 10-10 International but to maintain
    interest in 10 meters in *spite* of the current lull in the band.

4) to help develop computer operating aids for 10-10 contests and
    paperchasing.

5) to serve as one focal point for 10-10 members to discuss the organization,
    contest rules, awards rules, etc.

6) other future purposes realted to Amateur Radio and 10-10.

***********

I think that emailing me would probably be preferred to clogging up
a number of newsgroups with "me too!" kinds of mail.

If you are interested or have a *brief* thought on the subject, please
email:

[e-mail]

flames and/or mail bombs will be ignored, deleted, /dev/null'ed, etc.  :-)

If interest seems positive enough, I will make some contacts with the
officers of 10-10 to find out in what ways, if at all, they would
like to make contact and maintain contact with such a newsgroup.

73

Duane, WB9OMC

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Date: 3 May 94 17:25:43 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu![e-mail]
Subject: New FCC amateur radio licenses
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
David Drumheller <[e-mail]> wrote:
>   I've noticed that the recent amateur radio licenses come in two parts:
>the traditional wallet document, and one that can be framed to be hung in
>the shack.  I was last issued a license in 1990 that was printed with an
>impact printer, and it's a little hard to read.  It appears that the new
>licenses are laser printed.
>
>   Question: Can I ask the FCC for the new license?  I'd like to get the
>part you can frame.  (Somehow I feel the answer is going to be `no.')
>
>-Dave

They are nice, aren't they?  The answer is, it can be done.  All you need to
do, is submit a form 610, and request a duplicate.  My wife lost her's, and it
came in the mail in about 4 weeks.

                                          73 de Bob, N8MMR
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
=-=  Bob Wiley, N8MMR         Internet: [e-mail]  =-=
=-=  P.O. Box 3164            Amateur Radio Packet: [e-mail] =-=
=-=  Columbus, Ohio 43210                                                 =-=

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Date: 3 May 94 18:42:54 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!eff!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!news.mic.@
Subject: New FCC amateur radio licenses
To: [e-mail]

If I'm not mistaken, if you simply send in the form 610 to renew your
license (which is free) they will send you the new format, even if 10
years isn't up.  Or a change of address, for that matter.

73

--
                                             [e-mail]
                                             Glendale, CA
                                             AB6WR

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Date: 3 May 1994 19:39:20 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!jericho.mc.com!fugu![e-mail]
Subject: New FCC amateur radio licenses
To: [e-mail]

In article [e-mail], [e-mail] (David Drumheller) writes:
-->   I've noticed that the recent amateur radio licenses come in two parts:
-->the traditional wallet document, and one that can be framed to be hung in
-->the shack.  I was last issued a license in 1990 that was printed with an
-->impact printer, and it's a little hard to read.  It appears that the new
-->licenses are laser printed.
-->
-->   Question: Can I ask the FCC for the new license?  I'd like to get the
-->part you can frame.  (Somehow I feel the answer is going to be `no.')
-->

No Problem.  Get one of the new 610s and send in for a license
renewal.  Maybe you lost your original.......



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Bob Levine  KD1GG 7J1AIS VK2GYN               formerly KA1JFP
[e-mail]   <--Internet email    Phone[phone] x247
[e-mail] <--Packet Mail         FAX[phone]
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Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 18:36:29 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news.eecs.nwu.edu!ahab.eecs.nwu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: New FCC amateur radio licenses
To: [e-mail]

Followup to:  <[e-mail]>
By author:    [e-mail] (David Drumheller)
In newsgroup: rec.radio.amateur.policy
>
>    I've noticed that the recent amateur radio licenses come in two parts:
> the traditional wallet document, and one that can be framed to be hung in
> the shack.  I was last issued a license in 1990 that was printed with an
> impact printer, and it's a little hard to read.  It appears that the new
> licenses are laser printed.
>
>    Question: Can I ask the FCC for the new license?  I'd like to get the
> part you can frame.  (Somehow I feel the answer is going to be `no.')
>

You can get a new license issued if your old one got mutilated or
destroyed.  Mine pretty darn well qualifies (I left it in the trouser
pocket in the wash), but the current FCC 3-month delay makes me
leary... I figure also it will be a good incentive to finally get that
13 WPM so I can get an Advanced...

    /hpa

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Date: 3 May 1994 15:00 CDT
From: ncar!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!panix!ddsw1!news.kei.com!eff!news.duke.edu!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!emory!swrinde!news.uh.edu!elroy.uh.edu![e-mail]
Subject: New FCC amateur radio licenses
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David Drumheller) writes...
>   I've noticed that the recent amateur radio licenses come in two parts:
>the traditional wallet document, and one that can be framed to be hung in
>the shack.  I was last issued a license in 1990 that was printed with an
>impact printer, and it's a little hard to read.  It appears that the new
>licenses are laser printed.
>
>   Question: Can I ask the FCC for the new license?  I'd like to get the
>part you can frame.  (Somehow I feel the answer is going to be `no.')
>
>-Dave
>--
>David Drumheller, KA3QBQ          phone: [phone]
>Acoustics Division, Code 7140       fax: [phone]
>Naval Research Laboratory
>Washington, DC 20375-5350   e-mail: [e-mail]

Yes, you can.  My old impact license was set to expire in 1998, but I
wanted a good looking laser-printed license, so I sent in for a renewal.
This was two years ago when I did thig.  I recieved back a great looking
license with a new expiration date set for Feb. 14, 2002.

Just send in a 610, a copy of your current license, and check the box
that says "renew" license.

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Date: 4 May 94 01:40:55 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.tufts.edu!news.hnrc.tufts.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Oh, no, Mr. Bob! (was Re: "NOCODE: . . .)
To: [e-mail]

In article <2q696a$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Bob Levine) writes:
>
> Also, I learned today that the FCC is backlogged 12-14 weeks
> and still processing the OLD 610s.  (they havent reached the first
> of the new ones yet due to the backlog)
>

Sometimes it's more of a kindness not to tell!  :-)

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Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 00:17:44 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!mixcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: Ooops.
To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Brad Killebrew N5LJV) writes:

>Oops.  Disregard the last message, I posted it in the wrong area.

Just great!  Now we have TWO useless messages in this area!! :-[





Oops...make that three! ;-)

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